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Uh, generates electric shocks. The story of Job is that one day God and Satan were having a conversation. RadioLab is supported, in part, by the National Science Foundation, and the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. If this is the singular moment in Shakespeare where he gives you un-understandably evil man. Check out the Casper or the Wave mattress providing supportive comfort for every body type. And the rough statistics are that half of each of our bodies contains nitrogen from the Haber process. In a rage how? To feed about 30 million people. And then, realized that he had to leave the house or he was going to do damage to her. What does he say? It's called Too Much Information. We're going off tape now. Well I can use that same process-. He said, "Look, this is what you're going to do is of course you don't want to do this. I'm not going to give you what you want. You know, this was like oil is today. We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. Each answer just begs another why. But if you put two experimenters in the room, and-. The good Iago who makes you want to shower the minute you leave the theater 'cause you are sullied by him. You know, I'm really proud of Job. Radiolab for Kids Presents: Terrestrials A show where we uncover the strangeness right here on Earth Romeo y Julieta A World Premiere Bilingual Audio Play. I do not stand alone. And he ran them through something like what you and I just did. And they're both secularized Jews. Some- some people described it as a cloud, and then, others described it as this kind of 15 foot wall kind of hugging the land. The expectation is somebody is made to make his peace with his maker before he dies; that's what you do. And they think it's right. Could you just tell me the little story that you begin your book with? All right. And it's kind of surprising. Hi, my name is Josh, and I'm calling from Harlem, New York. And that's all the difference in the world. Of course normally just have one experimenter who's giving you these instructions. And he goes home for a few days a hero. And, "Because women have stepped on me all my life." Visit rocketmortgage.com/radiolab. Yeah, members of his extended family did; certainly friends of his did. You're bad. Trim, nice mustache. Jeff Jensen's book is the Green River Killer: A True Detective Story. "You know, you're not the first person that's ever done this.". I'm going to resign.". Live shows were first offered in 2008. Leaving a son, a- a- alone with his dead mother. We don't exactly know why. He started calling me a whore and told me he didn't love me anymore. And my dad said, "I don't want to talk about it." Well, that's because you- be-because Molly's been in the chair. This is basically what Stanley Milgram set out to test. Well if the idea is that people will do bad if they think it's good, if it's a good noble cause. A liquid. Who they would kill, where they'd do it, when. And actually, this wasn't just the German thing. And he spent five years in a futile effort to distill gold from the ocean's waters. Do we know? But even with all that gore and horribleness, there was often a moment that people waited for; and in a way we wait for it still, even now. radiolab-archive. With my arm. So, you see, it's just in that one experiment that 65% of people are willing to go all the way. It's absolutely essential that you continue. Thousands of people have done it before you. Can we really know that? That's historian Fritz Stern who also happens to be Fritz Haber's godson. Yeah. That's where they're heading towards. And she said, "My ex boyfriend. Okay. And I devoted one class session to the topic of homicide and why people kill. But the questions in the air, at the time, were very real. Check out the Blank Slate, a book by Steven Pinker, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. Yes. You know what's going to happen if she [inaudible 01:02:25]. I invited him for dinner and as he was in the kitchen looking stupid peeling the carrots to make salad, I came up to him laughingly, gently so that he wouldn't suspect anything. Now the volunteer couldn't see the guy he was shocking, but he could definitely hear him. She was actually, uh, sort of a genius herself. Wasn't satisfied [inaudible 01:01:21] maybe mad 'cause she was very much in a hurry. And, "Well why the rage?" And she said, "My ex-boyfriend. And so when I went to the party, the party was already in full swing when I got there. Um, with a black belt in karate. ", In Titus Andronicus, there's a character by the name of Aaron the Moor-, And there's a moment in the play where Aaron gets up on stage, looks at the audience and says, "Let me just tell you the kinds of things I've been up to recently.". God. This has allowed the world to have seven billion people. Meaning, I mean, what- what- any idea what was in his mind? Necrophilia. In Seattle today a man called the Green River killer-. ", And Satan is like, "Well I bet I can change his mind." And while David's sitting in the bedroom with this friend, the guy looks up at him and he says-, Like, through his teeth. Right now get $50 towards select mattresses by visiting casper.com/radiolab and using Code Radiolab at checkout. So then Hey wait, I'm almost done guys, give me two more minutes, two more minutes. "I need to kill because of that." Um, although there's some (laughs) [crosstalk 00:02:19]. Finally, acknowledging, yeah, that's true. "Research in any field is a must, particularly in this day and age. He was t- very aggressive. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. It's okay to admit this. "When I picked them up I was going to kill them." But when he gets there, he has to contend with his wife. Where sound illuminates ideas, and the boundaries blur between science, philosophy, and human experience. His health is failing in 1934, he takes a trip to Switzerland to a sanatorium-. Sap in the next room just because they were being told to? And today, evil? And to make the problem even more annoying. So you see it's just in that one experiment that 65 percent of people are willing to go all the way. I think you got to answer it with him, right? Just to back up for one second. And 84% of the women. "This was exactly what was on my mind. He recruited a bunch of subjects-. Robert, I'm going to give you this piece of paper here. Sort of unsportsmanlike. There's lots and lots of lessons here, but one is I think, you know, when you are enjoying to do something for the greater good, maybe ask yourself the question, what is greater and what is good? And you like her. In that, "Why?" So, he decided he was going to invent a process to pay for these reparations by himself and what he decided to do is go into the ocean, into seawater, which contains, um, uh, some very small levels of gold. Uh, he was doing his- his great science work right around the turn of, uh, the 20th century. Haber's gas troops, uh, un- unscrewed, they opened the valves on almost 6000 tanks containing a 150 tons of chlorine. I can't quite place him-. Just give me your finger, [crosstalk 00:09:28] I'm going to-. Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. This is Radiolab. Right, Clara comes from the same town, and they're both secularized Jews. They couldn't deploy it, they couldn't deploy it. He gets promoted to the rank of Captain. Birds would just fall from the air. He could have never imagined that. "I'm willing to help in a worthwhile experiment.". Now what you need to understand about Alex Haslam is that he hates it when interviewers only want to talk about the baseline study. It comes to us from our reporter, Aaron Scott. And on their skins, as on the bark of trees, have with my knife carved in Roman letters, 'Let not your sorrow die, though I am dead.'". "I just needed to kill because of that." And you tell us, "Actually, no. They continued shocking their corpses. Shoots herself in the chest. We will begin with this test. He, ultimately, spent 17 years searching for this man. They reached back to the shelf and they find this Zyklon stuff. In graphic detail. It's about 1880. And he believed it. Then a few months later, he started calling me trying to get back together, but I didn't want to. "This was exactly what was in my mind. I- I- I would say in a powerful mood. They will spare his son if he fessed up and tells them what they need to know. We'll be right back to Haber, but wait- wait. On the other hand, if anyone could do it-. You're going to keep giving what? Why does God allow this to happen? And-. Our main story is the haunting tale of a chimp named Lucy. When we asked how close she came to killing him, she estimated 60 percent. And, uh, I heard about him from science writer Sam Keen. It's a graphic or an illustrated novel. Was he grappling with something? [inaudible 01:00:01] is I- I went back one time before [inaudible 01:00:05] that I, uh, like I said, I got to get it out. But the weird thing is that he decides not just to take down Othello, but everybody. An experiment is being conducted in the elegant interaction laboratory at Yale University. And if they didn't go on, if they resisted, the experimenter would break out prod number two. He knew about it. But harbor saw it as a wonderful success, and wished that the Germans had been better prepared to exploit it, because he felt they really could have made a terrific advance if they had had more confidence. A lot of them were like, "This is not how you fight a war.". And he wrote this graphic novel that I read about one of the most prolific serial killers in U.S. history; Gary Leon Ridgeway, the Green River Killer. Read these words. And in the trial, when the prosecutors, essentially, ask him how you came to commit genocide he would say, over and over again-. "Well why can't you deal with it in a normal way?". I think they have to be extreme in the extreme. In December of 2001, my father and his colleagues, uh, made the arrest. Then, we reconsider what Stanley Milgram's famous experiment really revealed about human nature (it's both better and worse than we thought). Some people describe it as a cloud, and then others describe it as this kind of 15 foot wall kind of hugging the land, and it's just sort of approaching. Okay. Speaking with Carol's mom, Carol's little daughter. The Blank Slate follows one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind as he explores the idea of human nature and its moral emotional and political coverings. Okay, so I heard this one from this guy named David-. This story made us wonder, "Is David's friend-". In- in other words, nitrogen has really strong attachments to itself. Suddenly I'm thinking this is actually a darker interpretation. And this particular story, it comes from a book that David wrote. This is actually mean to be bad anyways. But we will do it on our own if we think it's good.". This episode of Radiolab, we wrestle with the dark side of human nature, and ask whether it's something we can ever really understand, or fully escape. Oft have I digged up dead men from their graves and sit them up right at the dear friend's door. Dan Charles, Sam Keen, Latif Nasser, Fred Koffman and Fritz Stern. Said, "Deadly enmity between two friends make poor men's cattle break their necks, set fire on barns, and haystacks in the night, and bid the owners quench them with their tears. Listen Infective Heredity. Does everybody, at some point, have something dark in them that just tiptoes out, from time to time? Especially because she found out he was leaving the next day to direct more gas attacks. By the way, that's reporter [Latif Nassar 00:30:59]. He's a master planner. No motives. And they ask for it to be reformulated to take out the warning smell, and it becomes zyklon B, the killing gas of the concentration camps. He said that if I ever had a relationship with another man, he was going to send videos of us having sex to all the people in my university. I mean, you have to remember, during the- during the Crimean War in the 1850s, Europe starves. Uh, it makes up four out of every five or so molecules that we breathe. No one has ever said about a sex tape that I've ever, so no. And he is basically homeless at this point. Clara, also from Breslau, also from a Jewish family. So, basically at 6:00 pm at April 22nd. Direct your voice to the microphone in the room. It was a warning smell so that people didn't inadvertently breathe it in and get sick. So the subjects seem willing to shock another human being, but as soon as you say, "It's an order.". The expectation is somebody is made to make his peace with his maker before he dies. Push button, get mortgage. I'm gonna-. Investigating a strange world. And even when they do say, "Yes." How many times would they shock that sad-. That is true. He recruited a bunch of subjects. Gary is dancing around this topic, Gary had denied this to his own lawyers. And he was someone who had very big ambitions. Now the volunteer couldn't see the guy he was shocking, but he'd definitely hear him. All right. There's something deeply, deeply wounding, stressing, upsetting a thought that he had anything to do with Zyklon B, but he did. [inaudible 00:21:03] just cut it out. In Seattle today a man called the Green River killer-. To him, he seemed calm and I left, and went home. Yeah. Gary starts going through this narrative of what he did to Carol. The reason why he's telling all this stuff is because he has cut a deal. But he is a, uh, a large, very strong man. After all he knows what he can stand. I think I call it pince-nez, so I'm not sure. He refuses what we fully expect and what everybody on stage at that moment fully expects from him. So in the end, where do you come down? The same year that Adolf Eichmann goes on trial for Nazi war crimes. It has enough what they used to call then solar energy. Go on please. His experiment remains one of the most famous experiments of the 20th century. I just needed to kill her." What follows is this ongoing conversation between Job and his friends about why does this happen? He seemed calm. He's bald. When you press one of the switches, all the way down, the learner gets a shock. Yet you go into this anyway, knowing full well that it could-, "That is true. I- horrified is- I was- I was pretty stunned. Hi I'm Robert Krulwich. He says that he's gonna- He's always been hiring people based on how smart they are and not who their grandparents were. So, it's very-. I would rather have scientists who carry doubt with them as they proceed. I actually did the first thing, but he saw my intentions and ran away." I'm really proud of Job, he believes in me, and he trusts me in so much, and he has such great faith in me. And you've done this how many times before. If you think that science is worth pursuing, you say, "Okay. Natural deposits would be like seaweed or-, You know, you could find it in cow manure or-. Three, two, one. And he was wearing a fur coat-. To find page after page of yeses. And later that night, after party, Haber takes a bunch of sleeping pills, goes to sleep. Right. A lot of WNYC podcasts do transcripts-- I know On the Media does. Radiolab. And then, and- So, he says that and you're like, "Okay. And according to some accounts, as it crept across no man's land-. They spent the next six months interrogating him, they brought in psychiatrists, and forensic psychologists to try to get an answer. Haber starts thinking, "In order to do this we need to pressure this, we need to put it under a lot of pressure.". We realize this is hard work, but what you are doing is for the good of Germany. I'm Robert Krulwich. And not just yeses. Yeah. But every time the experimenter pulled out the fourth prod, and this was confirmed when the experiment was redone in 2006, total disobedience. That afternoon, he gets in his car, goes home, he finds my mom on the deck, sits down next to her. This is what totally pulled me into the story. That's one of the things that we need to know. For when the subjects didn't want to continue? The Green River murders terrorized Seattle in the 1980s. Just push the button that corresponds to the right word. He's part of the club and he really, really relished it. David always known this guy to be pretty mild mannered. He won't answer. We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. The son eventually after he immigrates to America kills himself. Imagine how it feels to have an award-winning team by your side through the mortgage process. Especially when it came to one particular fact. It's like a downloadable from the internet instant defense for doing wrong, but if you look at Milgram's work closely. So, I'm just going to go into this other room over here. [inaudible 00:59:10] I went back one time before and [inaudible 00:59:13] that I Like I said, I got to give it out, can't keep holding it in. Would you really? He's standing there on the front pushing the gas into the lungs of other human beings. The most common source of nitrogen is in the air around us. Uh, walked in and asked his wife, uh, where this friend of mine was. It is a, the- the critical- the critical force prod. So, you ask like, why do people do bad things? They're engaged with the task. That's one of the things we have to know and that's why it's okay to let out. Pince-nez, okay. No. Yeah. Especially when it came to one particular fact. We'll be right back [inaudible 00:31:42], let's just finish this series. They couldn't deploy it. And what he decided to do is go into the ocean, into sea water, which contains very small levels of gold. So, he starts experimenting. Well, have you ever been blackmailed the way this woman was being blackmailed? In that why, in that one simple why that he asked Gary, there was a lot of questions he was asking. in this episode we begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and . New York Public Radio transcripts are created on a rush deadline, often by contractors. Hundreds of them were falling to the ground. All right. He would give all his baddies at least one moment where they could be understood. When I said, "Goodbye." 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Uh, generates electric shocks. The story of Job is that one day God and Satan were having a conversation. RadioLab is supported, in part, by the National Science Foundation, and the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. If this is the singular moment in Shakespeare where he gives you un-understandably evil man. Check out the Casper or the Wave mattress providing supportive comfort for every body type. And the rough statistics are that half of each of our bodies contains nitrogen from the Haber process. In a rage how? To feed about 30 million people. And then, realized that he had to leave the house or he was going to do damage to her. What does he say? It's called Too Much Information. We're going off tape now. Well I can use that same process-. He said, "Look, this is what you're going to do is of course you don't want to do this. I'm not going to give you what you want. You know, this was like oil is today. We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. Each answer just begs another why. But if you put two experimenters in the room, and-. The good Iago who makes you want to shower the minute you leave the theater 'cause you are sullied by him. You know, I'm really proud of Job. Radiolab for Kids Presents: Terrestrials A show where we uncover the strangeness right here on Earth Romeo y Julieta A World Premiere Bilingual Audio Play. I do not stand alone. And he ran them through something like what you and I just did. And they're both secularized Jews. Some- some people described it as a cloud, and then, others described it as this kind of 15 foot wall kind of hugging the land. The expectation is somebody is made to make his peace with his maker before he dies; that's what you do. And they think it's right. Could you just tell me the little story that you begin your book with? All right. And it's kind of surprising. Hi, my name is Josh, and I'm calling from Harlem, New York. And that's all the difference in the world. Of course normally just have one experimenter who's giving you these instructions. And he goes home for a few days a hero. And, "Because women have stepped on me all my life." Visit rocketmortgage.com/radiolab. Yeah, members of his extended family did; certainly friends of his did. You're bad. Trim, nice mustache. Jeff Jensen's book is the Green River Killer: A True Detective Story. "You know, you're not the first person that's ever done this.". I'm going to resign.". Live shows were first offered in 2008. Leaving a son, a- a- alone with his dead mother. We don't exactly know why. He started calling me a whore and told me he didn't love me anymore. And my dad said, "I don't want to talk about it." Well, that's because you- be-because Molly's been in the chair. This is basically what Stanley Milgram set out to test. Well if the idea is that people will do bad if they think it's good, if it's a good noble cause. A liquid. Who they would kill, where they'd do it, when. And actually, this wasn't just the German thing. And he spent five years in a futile effort to distill gold from the ocean's waters. Do we know? But even with all that gore and horribleness, there was often a moment that people waited for; and in a way we wait for it still, even now. radiolab-archive. With my arm. So, you see, it's just in that one experiment that 65% of people are willing to go all the way. It's absolutely essential that you continue. Thousands of people have done it before you. Can we really know that? That's historian Fritz Stern who also happens to be Fritz Haber's godson. Yeah. That's where they're heading towards. And she said, "My ex boyfriend. Okay. And I devoted one class session to the topic of homicide and why people kill. But the questions in the air, at the time, were very real. Check out the Blank Slate, a book by Steven Pinker, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. Yes. You know what's going to happen if she [inaudible 01:02:25]. I invited him for dinner and as he was in the kitchen looking stupid peeling the carrots to make salad, I came up to him laughingly, gently so that he wouldn't suspect anything. Now the volunteer couldn't see the guy he was shocking, but he could definitely hear him. She was actually, uh, sort of a genius herself. Wasn't satisfied [inaudible 01:01:21] maybe mad 'cause she was very much in a hurry. And, "Well why the rage?" And she said, "My ex-boyfriend. And so when I went to the party, the party was already in full swing when I got there. Um, with a black belt in karate. ", In Titus Andronicus, there's a character by the name of Aaron the Moor-, And there's a moment in the play where Aaron gets up on stage, looks at the audience and says, "Let me just tell you the kinds of things I've been up to recently.". God. This has allowed the world to have seven billion people. Meaning, I mean, what- what- any idea what was in his mind? Necrophilia. In Seattle today a man called the Green River killer-. ", And Satan is like, "Well I bet I can change his mind." And while David's sitting in the bedroom with this friend, the guy looks up at him and he says-, Like, through his teeth. Right now get $50 towards select mattresses by visiting casper.com/radiolab and using Code Radiolab at checkout. So then Hey wait, I'm almost done guys, give me two more minutes, two more minutes. "I need to kill because of that." Um, although there's some (laughs) [crosstalk 00:02:19]. Finally, acknowledging, yeah, that's true. "Research in any field is a must, particularly in this day and age. He was t- very aggressive. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. It's okay to admit this. "When I picked them up I was going to kill them." But when he gets there, he has to contend with his wife. Where sound illuminates ideas, and the boundaries blur between science, philosophy, and human experience. His health is failing in 1934, he takes a trip to Switzerland to a sanatorium-. Sap in the next room just because they were being told to? And today, evil? And to make the problem even more annoying. So you see it's just in that one experiment that 65 percent of people are willing to go all the way. I think you got to answer it with him, right? Just to back up for one second. And 84% of the women. "This was exactly what was on my mind. He recruited a bunch of subjects-. Robert, I'm going to give you this piece of paper here. Sort of unsportsmanlike. There's lots and lots of lessons here, but one is I think, you know, when you are enjoying to do something for the greater good, maybe ask yourself the question, what is greater and what is good? And you like her. In that, "Why?" So, he decided he was going to invent a process to pay for these reparations by himself and what he decided to do is go into the ocean, into seawater, which contains, um, uh, some very small levels of gold. Uh, he was doing his- his great science work right around the turn of, uh, the 20th century. Haber's gas troops, uh, un- unscrewed, they opened the valves on almost 6000 tanks containing a 150 tons of chlorine. I can't quite place him-. Just give me your finger, [crosstalk 00:09:28] I'm going to-. Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. This is Radiolab. Right, Clara comes from the same town, and they're both secularized Jews. They couldn't deploy it, they couldn't deploy it. He gets promoted to the rank of Captain. Birds would just fall from the air. He could have never imagined that. "I'm willing to help in a worthwhile experiment.". Now what you need to understand about Alex Haslam is that he hates it when interviewers only want to talk about the baseline study. It comes to us from our reporter, Aaron Scott. And on their skins, as on the bark of trees, have with my knife carved in Roman letters, 'Let not your sorrow die, though I am dead.'". "I just needed to kill because of that." And you tell us, "Actually, no. They continued shocking their corpses. Shoots herself in the chest. We will begin with this test. He, ultimately, spent 17 years searching for this man. They reached back to the shelf and they find this Zyklon stuff. In graphic detail. It's about 1880. And he believed it. Then a few months later, he started calling me trying to get back together, but I didn't want to. "This was exactly what was in my mind. I- I- I would say in a powerful mood. They will spare his son if he fessed up and tells them what they need to know. We'll be right back to Haber, but wait- wait. On the other hand, if anyone could do it-. You're going to keep giving what? Why does God allow this to happen? And-. Our main story is the haunting tale of a chimp named Lucy. When we asked how close she came to killing him, she estimated 60 percent. And, uh, I heard about him from science writer Sam Keen. It's a graphic or an illustrated novel. Was he grappling with something? [inaudible 01:00:01] is I- I went back one time before [inaudible 01:00:05] that I, uh, like I said, I got to get it out. But the weird thing is that he decides not just to take down Othello, but everybody. An experiment is being conducted in the elegant interaction laboratory at Yale University. And if they didn't go on, if they resisted, the experimenter would break out prod number two. He knew about it. But harbor saw it as a wonderful success, and wished that the Germans had been better prepared to exploit it, because he felt they really could have made a terrific advance if they had had more confidence. A lot of them were like, "This is not how you fight a war.". And he wrote this graphic novel that I read about one of the most prolific serial killers in U.S. history; Gary Leon Ridgeway, the Green River Killer. Read these words. And in the trial, when the prosecutors, essentially, ask him how you came to commit genocide he would say, over and over again-. "Well why can't you deal with it in a normal way?". I think they have to be extreme in the extreme. In December of 2001, my father and his colleagues, uh, made the arrest. Then, we reconsider what Stanley Milgram's famous experiment really revealed about human nature (it's both better and worse than we thought). Some people describe it as a cloud, and then others describe it as this kind of 15 foot wall kind of hugging the land, and it's just sort of approaching. Okay. Speaking with Carol's mom, Carol's little daughter. The Blank Slate follows one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind as he explores the idea of human nature and its moral emotional and political coverings. Okay, so I heard this one from this guy named David-. This story made us wonder, "Is David's friend-". In- in other words, nitrogen has really strong attachments to itself. Suddenly I'm thinking this is actually a darker interpretation. And this particular story, it comes from a book that David wrote. This is actually mean to be bad anyways. But we will do it on our own if we think it's good.". This episode of Radiolab, we wrestle with the dark side of human nature, and ask whether it's something we can ever really understand, or fully escape. Oft have I digged up dead men from their graves and sit them up right at the dear friend's door. Dan Charles, Sam Keen, Latif Nasser, Fred Koffman and Fritz Stern. Said, "Deadly enmity between two friends make poor men's cattle break their necks, set fire on barns, and haystacks in the night, and bid the owners quench them with their tears. Listen Infective Heredity. Does everybody, at some point, have something dark in them that just tiptoes out, from time to time? Especially because she found out he was leaving the next day to direct more gas attacks. By the way, that's reporter [Latif Nassar 00:30:59]. He's a master planner. No motives. And they ask for it to be reformulated to take out the warning smell, and it becomes zyklon B, the killing gas of the concentration camps. He said that if I ever had a relationship with another man, he was going to send videos of us having sex to all the people in my university. I mean, you have to remember, during the- during the Crimean War in the 1850s, Europe starves. Uh, it makes up four out of every five or so molecules that we breathe. No one has ever said about a sex tape that I've ever, so no. And he is basically homeless at this point. Clara, also from Breslau, also from a Jewish family. So, basically at 6:00 pm at April 22nd. Direct your voice to the microphone in the room. It was a warning smell so that people didn't inadvertently breathe it in and get sick. So the subjects seem willing to shock another human being, but as soon as you say, "It's an order.". The expectation is somebody is made to make his peace with his maker before he dies. Push button, get mortgage. I'm gonna-. Investigating a strange world. And even when they do say, "Yes." How many times would they shock that sad-. That is true. He recruited a bunch of subjects. Gary is dancing around this topic, Gary had denied this to his own lawyers. And he was someone who had very big ambitions. Now the volunteer couldn't see the guy he was shocking, but he'd definitely hear him. All right. There's something deeply, deeply wounding, stressing, upsetting a thought that he had anything to do with Zyklon B, but he did. [inaudible 00:21:03] just cut it out. In Seattle today a man called the Green River killer-. To him, he seemed calm and I left, and went home. Yeah. Gary starts going through this narrative of what he did to Carol. The reason why he's telling all this stuff is because he has cut a deal. But he is a, uh, a large, very strong man. After all he knows what he can stand. I think I call it pince-nez, so I'm not sure. He refuses what we fully expect and what everybody on stage at that moment fully expects from him. So in the end, where do you come down? The same year that Adolf Eichmann goes on trial for Nazi war crimes. It has enough what they used to call then solar energy. Go on please. His experiment remains one of the most famous experiments of the 20th century. I just needed to kill her." What follows is this ongoing conversation between Job and his friends about why does this happen? He seemed calm. He's bald. When you press one of the switches, all the way down, the learner gets a shock. Yet you go into this anyway, knowing full well that it could-, "That is true. I- horrified is- I was- I was pretty stunned. Hi I'm Robert Krulwich. He says that he's gonna- He's always been hiring people based on how smart they are and not who their grandparents were. So, it's very-. I would rather have scientists who carry doubt with them as they proceed. I actually did the first thing, but he saw my intentions and ran away." I'm really proud of Job, he believes in me, and he trusts me in so much, and he has such great faith in me. And you've done this how many times before. If you think that science is worth pursuing, you say, "Okay. Natural deposits would be like seaweed or-, You know, you could find it in cow manure or-. Three, two, one. And he was wearing a fur coat-. To find page after page of yeses. And later that night, after party, Haber takes a bunch of sleeping pills, goes to sleep. Right. A lot of WNYC podcasts do transcripts-- I know On the Media does. Radiolab. And then, and- So, he says that and you're like, "Okay. And according to some accounts, as it crept across no man's land-. They spent the next six months interrogating him, they brought in psychiatrists, and forensic psychologists to try to get an answer. Haber starts thinking, "In order to do this we need to pressure this, we need to put it under a lot of pressure.". We realize this is hard work, but what you are doing is for the good of Germany. I'm Robert Krulwich. And not just yeses. Yeah. But every time the experimenter pulled out the fourth prod, and this was confirmed when the experiment was redone in 2006, total disobedience. That afternoon, he gets in his car, goes home, he finds my mom on the deck, sits down next to her. This is what totally pulled me into the story. That's one of the things that we need to know. For when the subjects didn't want to continue? The Green River murders terrorized Seattle in the 1980s. Just push the button that corresponds to the right word. He's part of the club and he really, really relished it. David always known this guy to be pretty mild mannered. He won't answer. We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. The son eventually after he immigrates to America kills himself. Imagine how it feels to have an award-winning team by your side through the mortgage process. Especially when it came to one particular fact. It's like a downloadable from the internet instant defense for doing wrong, but if you look at Milgram's work closely. So, I'm just going to go into this other room over here. [inaudible 00:59:10] I went back one time before and [inaudible 00:59:13] that I Like I said, I got to give it out, can't keep holding it in. Would you really? He's standing there on the front pushing the gas into the lungs of other human beings. The most common source of nitrogen is in the air around us. Uh, walked in and asked his wife, uh, where this friend of mine was. It is a, the- the critical- the critical force prod. So, you ask like, why do people do bad things? They're engaged with the task. That's one of the things we have to know and that's why it's okay to let out. Pince-nez, okay. No. Yeah. Especially when it came to one particular fact. We'll be right back [inaudible 00:31:42], let's just finish this series. They couldn't deploy it. And what he decided to do is go into the ocean, into sea water, which contains very small levels of gold. So, he starts experimenting. Well, have you ever been blackmailed the way this woman was being blackmailed? In that why, in that one simple why that he asked Gary, there was a lot of questions he was asking. in this episode we begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and . New York Public Radio transcripts are created on a rush deadline, often by contractors. Hundreds of them were falling to the ground. All right. He would give all his baddies at least one moment where they could be understood. When I said, "Goodbye." 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